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The vintage macgregor is a good example of a budget-friendly boat..
Maybe this has happened to you: You’re on a country road, driving to a wedding (or family vacation or business conference), and you pass a sailboat on a trailer with a “For Sale” sign. It’s not a big boat. It’s not a small boat. But it’s just about right for launching a small adventure with your young family, or maybe you’re looking to downsize. You can’t resist stopping for a closer look. Incredibly, the sign reads “$600,” including a nearly new trailer and an old 4-horsepower, two-stroke outboard that “runs like a top.” You write down the number and drive away, thinking: “Somebody is giving away a perfectly good boat.”
Chances are that “steal of a deal” is a Roger MacGregor-designed Venture 21, and if not, it’s probably one of the many copycats riding the trailer-sailer boom that MacGregor’s little boat ignited. The Catalina 22, the Santana 21, and the San Juan 21 are just some of the boats that followed closely in the wake of the Venture 21’s introduction.
The concept for the Venture 21 came out of MacGregor’s master’s thesis in the Stanford University MBA program. The first hull was introduced in 1965, but full-fledged production didn’t begin until 1967. Several thousand hulls later, the last MacGregor 21 (the boat was renamed in 1980) rolled off the line in 1986 at the MacGregor factory in Costa Mesa, Calif. Today, with some 36,000 sailboat hulls behind it, the company builds just one boat, the hybrid sailboat/powerboat MacGregor 26x.
Although MacGregor sold fewer Venture 21s than its successor—the Venture 22, which later became the pop-top Venture 22-2—the 21’s easy trailerability and affordable price helped it maintain its popularity throughout the 1970s. Capitalizing on the fiberglass revolution in boatbuilding, MacGregor’s business-school project sparked a pivotal marketing shift that helped bring recreational sailing to mainstream America.
While the trailer-sailer boom is far behind us, the Venture 21 and its many look-alikes have renewed relevance today. With their discretionary spending sharply cut, younger sailors are taking the Craigslist-route into sailing, scouring the classified ads for boats that don’t require dock space but still have room for a family sail. Meanwhile, many owners of 30-plus-footers are considering downsizing to a boat that doesn’t require mooring fees and a hefty maintenance bill each spring. For better or for worse, in the dim light of a recession, a back-to-basics giveaway boat on the roadside begins to look awfully enticing. For these and other reasons, PS decided to take a closer look at the Venture 21, which, in many ways, is the epitome of “the boat with a price I couldn’t refuse.”
The Venture 21 was designed to be affordable, easy to trailer and launch, and fun to sail, with enough room below for storing gear, napping, or even spending a night at anchor. It was principally aimed at new sailors, but it also appealed to those who wanted to step up from an open daysailer. Its size, sail area, and hull design were tailored for lakes and bays with fickle breezes of less than 15 knots.
Seaworthiness and performance were important considerations but pragmatism and aesthetic appeal were the driving force behind its design features.
Although the boat’s low headroom and Spartan interior would not qualify it as a weekender today, it was initially marketed as a “cruising” sailboat. A sleep-aboard sailboat that could be hauled around the country behind the family station wagon seemed perfectly in tune with the wanderlust of the 1960s.
While the Venture 21 is regarded as one of the first modern trailer-sailers, no single design element stands out as particularly revolutionary or unique. Instead, MacGregor incorporated proven features that would not only appeal to serious sailors, but also would remain consistent with the public perception of what a good boat should be and look like. In the yacht market, the Cruising Club of America boats were still the aesthetic model. Carl Alberg’s popular Ensign, launched by Pearson in 1962, is a good example of a small boat that clung to the CCA philosophy and aesthetic.
The Venture’s heritage is more closely aligned with two daysailers that were enjoying a surge of popularity on the East Coast in the early 1960s: the 17-foot Day Sailer, designed by George O’Day and Uffa Fox in 1958, and, to a lesser degree, the Phillip Rhodes-designed Rhodes 19, first offered by O’Day in 1959. Both were built by the nascent O’Day Group of Fall River, Mass. The similarities in the three boats are most apparent above the waterline. All have a relatively flat sheer line and spoon-like bow overhang (or spoonbow), elements that predate the modern yachting era.
While the Rhodes 19 still carries fairly deep V-sections well aft, making it a capable performer in the chop typical of its New England home waters, the Day Sailer flattens out, particularly at the stern, giving it fast, near-planing speeds off the wind. Fox and O’Day later refined this feature, earning Fox a reputation as the innovator of the planing dinghy. With a modest V-shape and a relatively fine bow, the Venture 21 lies somewhere between the two Rhodes 19 and the Day Sailer.
The Venture’s swing keel gives it 5 feet, 6 inches of draft—even more than its popular big brother, the Venture 25—and retracts to allow the boat to float in about 15 inches of water. (The brochure says 12 inches.)
Although the original design called for a fractional rig with a 22-foot mast, this was later changed to a masthead rig, giving it quite a bit of horsepower for its era. At the peak of its production in the late 1970s, the Venture 21 enjoyed popularity as a racing boat, with fleets springing up on the Gulf Coast, the Great Lakes, and the Northeast, as well as its home waters of Southern California. Although some owners have gone to the trouble of re-routing running rigging, fairing the keel, adding travelers and vangs, and replacing the pinned turnbuckles with threaded turnbuckles, we’d encourage someone inclined toward performance to look at a more modern hull with an active racing fleet.
One of the most notable features is the boat’s 7-foot cockpit, as big as that found in the much larger and heavier Catalina 22. However, unlike the Catalina 22, the San Juan 21, and the successively longer Ventures (V-22, V-23, V-25) that widened the cabintop to provide more interior space, the Venture 21 preserves enough sidedeck for crew to move forward . . . with care. Many V-21s, like the one we sailed, never had lifelines; others have had their lifelines removed. The standard single lifelines—low and poorly supported by widely spaced stanchions—offer a modicum of safety, but these are still less than ideal. In our view, lifelines are not a deal-breaker on a 21-foot daysailer, but if you have small children, a boat that is equipped with lifelines with a supporting pushpit and pulpit would be preferable.
The cockpit has a small lazarette, presumably to store fuel for the small bracket-mounted outboard, but this leads directly to the bilge, a bad idea that presents a potential fire risk. The original boats came equipped with top-grinding winches with short T-tracks for the jib. The boat we sailed had only a single fixed-point for the jib sheet. The end-of-boom mainsheet has a 4:1 purchase that spreads the load to each corner of the stern, a basic setup that limits trim options. Some owners modified the leads and added a mainsheet traveler, although this entails either raising the traveler over the tiller, or moving the sheet forward on the boom; both are compromise solutions.
A modest 18- by 18-inch fiberglass bow hatch allows ventilation down below, as well as a place for sails to be passed down. There is no anchor locker or chain pipe. The boat we sailed had an 8-inch diameter screw-on PVC deck plate that was apparently used as a chain pipe.
Overall, the deck has a functional layout, fine for its primary mission, which is to enjoy some time on the water with very little hassle.
Accommodations
The biggest drawback to the Venture 21’s emphasis on trailerability and a 1960s aesthetic is the lack of headroom below. By keeping the cabintop and topsides profile low, MacGregor produced a boat that, in our view, is better looking than the slab-sided models that followed. However, the end result is a very cramped interior. The VW-camper-inspired pop-top on the Venture 22-2, which came shortly after the Venture 21, offered a compromise that was adopted by a number of boats in this size range. Gradually, the intrinsic appeal of a low profile gave way to market demands. (MacGregor’s current and only model, the M26x, is a classic example of the wedding cake look that eschews traditional aesthetics for the sake of comfort below.)
With two quarter berths and a V-berth, the Venture 21 technically could sleep four, but this sort of arrangement probably would be brief and acrimonious. Although you could pack a lot of gear under the cockpit, actual locker storage is limited. Some ambitious owners have added sinks, small galleys, 12-volt systems, and port-a-potties below, but the boat’s cramped headroom restricts its suitability for more than a few days of cruising. For the 20-something adventurer with aspirations of camp-cruising on one of America’s many inland lakes, it will do just fine, but more than a couple of days aboard a boat this size will be a sure test of any marriage.
Construction
During the Venture 21’s 15-year production run, from 1965-1980, the materials and construction methods used for its deck, rig, structural components, and keel went through several changes. Construction of the hull itself, however, remained virtually unchanged. The hull was hand laid up with woven roven and mat. The layup schedule was a single unit of alternating mat and woven roven. Owners do report flexing in some spots, although we noted none on the boat we tested. The early boats are fairly resin rich, so hull thickness is not necessarily a reflection of strength.
The earliest Ventures had a stick-built interior, with bulkheads and bunks made of resin-coated cuts of plywood that were laminated in place. These earlier versions make it easier for owners to modify or rebuild an interior, and this is almost an inevitable project, given plywood’s propensity to rot and delaminate.
By the mid-1970s, MacGregor switched to a molded liner, which accelerated production and eliminated issues of rot, but added about 200 pounds to the total weight. Large sections of the boat are enclosed and filled with foam—a touted safety feature—but it is nonsense to consider the boat unsinkable, as some websites and blog posts suggest.
About 50 V-21s featured lead keels. The poured lead was anchored to a steel beam, and the entire construction sheathed in fiberglass. This process was not only expensive, but it also presented significant corrosion problems, as water eventually migrated into the fiberglass-encased keel.
Most models have solid iron keels; corrosion, however, is still a problem with these keels, but they can be removed, ground-down, faired, and sealed with an epoxy barrier coat to provide many more years of service. This is the biggest “problem” with the Venture 21, and any buyer should take a close look at the keel and the related components.
The original deck was plywood core, but this was later changed to balsa. In either case, rot is a potential problem (particularly in areas of the owner-installed deck hardware), but none of the 14 owners of Venture 21s who participated in our survey reported significant problems with deck rot.
The hull-to-deck joint was initially a bolted and adhesive-bonded shoebox joint, in which the lip of the deck flange fits over the hull just like a shoebox lid. This was later modified to an outward turning flange joint, with the hull lip turning outward to present a horizontal bonding surface for the deck. In both cases, the joint was bonded with a polyurethane adhesive sealant such as 3M 5200, bolted together, and then covered with an extruded aluminum and vinyl rubrail. Neither joint is as rugged as an inward-turning flange, but this is method is typical for a boat of this size.
Early versions of the Venture 21 were fractional rigs, but the majority were masthead rigs with overlapping jibs. An off-center backstay and upper and lower shrouds add support to the 22-foot mast. Early boats, like the 1969 model that we test sailed, did not have spreaders on the upper shrouds. In windy areas, where mast pumping is a noticeable problem, retrofitting spreaders—or looking for a more suitable boat—would be a good idea. The chainplates are through-bolted to the hull, eliminating the typically rot-prone attachment to plywood bulkheads found in some larger boats of this vintage. The original turnbuckles are the fixed-adjustment type that allow 1/8-inch adjustment intervals, making it hard to tune the rig at sea, but impossible to over-tighten, a common novice error.
The two biggest problems cited in our owners’ survey were the hand-crank keel winch and the keel-retaining bolt. Although the keel winches on later MacGregor models are braked mechanisms that will not spin freely under load, the one on the Venture 21 is a common ratchet-type trailer winch. If it is let go under load, the handle can whip around dangerously. Many owners have replaced this with a braked winch—a good idea, although these winches will require more maintenance. The keel-retaining bolt is a 3/8-inch diameter bolt that is slipped through a hole in the centerboard trunk and a corresponding hole in the keel. It is used to lock the keel in place when sailing in deep water, preventing the keel from flopping back into the hull should the boat capsize or surf down the face of a wave. The retaining bolts are commonly bent during a grounding, and any boat with a bent one should be inspected closely around the hull and keel trunk for other signs of damage.
Overall, the construction is light, but adequate for the boat’s designed purposes. If the deck isn’t too rotten, and the swing keel and keel box aren’t shot, most any other potential problem on the Venture 21 is easily remedied by someone who is handy and has the time.
Performance
During its heyday, the Venture 21 was promoted for it speed. MacGregor touted its position as the first of the “hot retracting keel boats” and the “fastest of its type,” with “planing speeds at over 16 miles per hour.” In this age of ultra-light monohulls and multihulls with eye-popping sail area (see PS, September 2009 and May 2010), this sort of hype seems quaint, but if you compare the Venture 21 to other boats of its era, it is clearly no slouch (See “Venture 21 in Context,” page 11). Its sail area/displacement ratio puts it ahead of several contenders, and its hull form—as mentioned—does give it an ability to hit double-digit speeds in the right hands.
The boat we test sailed was handicapped by ancient sails and an outboard that could not be fully tilted out of the water. Although the boat had a masthead rig, the headsail was a fractional working jib. A 140-percent genoa, found on many boats, would have added about 25 percent to the total sail area. To windward, the boat tacked smartly through 90 degrees, although we’d expect a boat with good sails to point higher. The boat was initially tender on the wind, but once the full effect of the 400-pound keel exerted its influence, the boat settled into a comfortable heel. Despite the deep bellies in her sails, the boat handled gusts surprisingly well, and by adjusting the swing keel’s depth, testers could easily achieve a balanced helm. Off the wind in 12 to 15 knots of breeze, we were able to sustain speeds of 7 knots under working sails alone with the keel almost fully retracted. While not wind-in-your hair sailing by today’s standards, it meets our definition of fun.
Conclusions
After spending some time aboard the Venture 21, we were reminded how much and how little has changed since the boat was introduced more than 40 years ago. Most comparable modern “weekenders” with big cockpits and modest cabins, like the Precision 21 or Catalina Capris 22, offer much more in terms of safety, systems (limited as they are), and modern conveniences. And entry-level daysailers like the thermo-molded Hunter 216 offer more in terms of performance options, such as a sprit for the asymmetrical sail and rigging conveniences like a hydraulic lifting keel. If true small-boat performance with a potential for one-design racing is what you’re after, then a boat like the J/22 presents a more sensible choice.
While overall construction quality has improved over the past 40 years, most daysailer hulls (the Hunter 216 and the balsa-cored J/22 excepted) are still solid fiberglass and laid up by hand, an economical and forgiving method. Many daysailers with cabins are actually much heavier than the lightly built V-21, but they also have much better finish quality.
The bottom line with the Venture 21 is the bottom line. If you hunt around long enough, you are likely to pick up a sailaway boat with a trailer and outboard for less than $3,000—about the cost of a new trailer. The boat we sailed sold for far less, including the trailer and 4-horsepower Evinrude. If you are really patient, you can probably find a fixer-upper that someone will give to if you promise to drag it off their property.
Is this 40-year-old, mass-produced boat still a viable option for the entry-level sailor, or someone looking to downsize? No question about it. The Venture 21 is not a boat we’d recommend for someone with offshore aspirations or in places like San Francisco Bay where heavy air and a stiff chop would render it wet, slow, and uncomfortable. However, if you plan some coastal or lake adventures and are limited by a 2,000-pound tow capacity and a recession-era budget, then the Venture 21 definitely deserves a look.
There is one key caveat: Because it is easy to underestimate the amount of work required to revive barn-found boat, we would strongly urge looking for a Venture 21 that is in sailaway condition, rather than a project boat. Dealing with the iron keel alone can be a time-consuming project, and despite the boat’s interesting history, this adds little or no to resale value. On the good side, however, should you decide to embark on the restoration of a Venture 21, you will not be alone. Plenty have done it before, and given the boat’s irresistibly low price tag, more will surely follow in their wake.
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What kind of Trailer did your boat have. Mine (1972) is a 4″ welded C Channel, Is this a factory style trailer or somebody’s back yard built. It has the right v notches for the C/B etc.
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Venture 17 is a 17 ′ 3 ″ / 5.3 m monohull sailboat designed by Roger MacGregor and built by Macgregor Yacht Corp between 1968 and 1974.
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Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.
The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.
Classic hull speed formula:
Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL
Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL
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A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.
SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3
- SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
- D : Displacement in pounds.
Ballast / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.
Ballast / Displacement * 100
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A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.
D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
- LWL: Waterline length in feet
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This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.
Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
- LOA: Length overall in feet
- Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
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CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)
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New To Sailing, Just picked up a 1974 MacGregor V2-22
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Wife said buy it so I did - and then I learned about it. Brilliant. We bought a 1973 Venture - If I knew then what I know now I would have bought a different boat. There is not one damn thing that doesn't or didn't need attention. Some major things I had to fix or am fixing now (soft decks is a biggie). But - shes ours and I'm going to fix her up - over the course of years. After the first year I cut the interior all up for a new layout. Going for functionality and ability to sail while under construction. Pretty will come later. Much later. Our longest stay on this boat is about three weeks without a port. Whatever is wrong with yours you can fix or improve if you want - especially if you don't mind cutting the thing up and gluing it back together - I no longer fear it at all. Its only plastic!!!! Anything can be constructed and if you want pretty you better start loving sanding things. Really only you can decide. Its alot of work, its alot of fun. And its not bad to trailer.
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Welcome aboard! What you are describing seem to be mostly cosmetic, as long as you don't have spongy decks, holes and things of that nature you have good find! It will be something you and your girl can enjoy doing together. BWYachts.com have parts for Macgregor boats if you want to check them out. I have also found that reading past posts can give you a wealth of information so please don't miss out on that. Enjoy!!!!
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You know, when I got my Mac, I was only looking for a trailer for a sailboat I had that was far worse. Turns out when I mentioned needing a trailer to a customer, he said he had one that I could have for free. "Really? You are going to give me a trailer?" He said yep, the catch is you have to take the boat that's on it too. Turns out it was a 1990 Mac that had been sitting for 6 years. A branch had fallen and bent the mast. The great part is, the mast and motor were the only good things on my current boat. It's a work in progress. But it's working out well. Free is a bit deceptive. Pieces and parts add up quick but still it's ok
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First I believe that is 1974 the boat was still a Venture not a Mac. It changed about that time so I am not sure. The first thing I would do is remove every thing from inside, including the area under the front V birth and under the cock pit. The original paint is probably pealing on the inside. Check the stringers in the hull for rot. You may also pull the removable parts of the inside trim to see what it looks. like If every thing looks good I would then give the outside a good washing, you may have to use a mild bleach, to remove the mold. After having climbed all over the inside and out you should have found any soft areas. So you should know it you are willing to spend the money for restoration. If the keel needs to be completely re fiber glassed it will cost about 2k. If it is basically sound you can do the minor fiberglass repair yourself The stress cracks are probably in the gell coat and are not structural. Nor is the condition in the last picture. So if we are good so far, a little rubbing compound as NECESSARY, some fiberglass cleaner and a good wax will have you sailing. When you save enough money you can have or do the surface fiberglass repair and repainting.
how about an inventory? Do you have sails, mast, boom, rudder, running rigging? engine? (^the big money items) once you have all the basics, I'd look at the structure. keel is a very big deal. you don't want to loose it. most of what I see is cosmetic, and can be done later. I would inspect the chainplates and cables (stays) replace if any have broken wires. (west marine will let you use their bench and tools). personally, I'd get it to the water asap, so I could raise the mast, try and lower the keel, and see what is missing. (not to sail, just to do a 'wet' test). maybe motor around a bit then back on the trailer. before you get too deep you want to see how much of an investment you'll be looking at. then you can make decisions on where you want to go. these are good boats, and you will have a nice boat if you fix it. but you may never get your money out... so be sure you're ok with the boat before you dive in. .02
Wow I can't believe how much washing and scrubbing did to the appearance of it. Congratulations on your new boat! Like you I'm in a very similar place. I bought my boat in November and have been researching and learning about it all winter long. Just last weekend I finally started the re-build. There's lots of great people here with a ton of ideas you can steal for yourself. Be sure to keep us updated with lot of pictures along the way. Good luck!
a stout acid will get rid of the deep staining in the oxidized gelcoat nicely....
Like MrBill says, you won't know if it's worth it until you do an inventory. Got sails, rigging, motor, keel?
For my money, I'd say fix what needs fixing to get on the water and then go and sail. get a feel for the boat ad ailing an see if you like it. There will always be time to improve the boat. My $.02 Matt
Great responses! Thanks. Oh, it is in fact a Venture as someone pointed out. V2-22 I believe. I have the sails, jibs, rudder/tiller. I haven't looked at the keel yet (except to look under the trailer and see that it's there and doesn't look terrible from what I can see) I do not have an outboard. And the keel crank is rusted solid. Walking around the deck, I didn't feel any soft spots. Not sure about the hull yet. Speaking of the hull, I'm trying to figure out how to get it off the trailer to check out the keel and polish it up. I bought something from West Marine that the sales guy highly suggested and in fact talked me out of spending money on paints and other stuff until I did this. Removes oxidation and polishes. I need to fix the wood supports on the trailer as well. I'm sure this has been covered, can anyone direct me to a good thread on this subject? Once again, Thanks, I'm really excited about this new adventure.
Hillbillybuddha said: Great responses! Thanks. Oh, it is in fact a Venture as someone pointed out. V2-22 I believe. I have the sails, jibs, rudder/tiller. I haven't looked at the keel yet (except to look under the trailer and see that it's there and doesn't look terrible from what I can see) I do not have an outboard. And the keel crank is rusted solid. Walking around the deck, I didn't feel any soft spots. Not sure about the hull yet. Speaking of the hull, I'm trying to figure out how to get it off the trailer to check out the keel and polish it up. I bought something from West Marine that the sales guy highly suggested and in fact talked me out of spending money on paints and other stuff until I did this. Removes oxidation and polishes. I need to fix the wood supports on the trailer as well. I'm sure this has been covered, can anyone direct me to a good thread on this subject? Once again, Thanks, I'm really excited about this new adventure. Click to expand
just watch out on the keel, its around 600#. you'll need more than arm strength to inspect or remove. sumner's is about 50#. (waterbalast boat). also your bunks will be a bit different.
What a difference a lot of elbow grease can make. As mentioned removing keel can be difficult and dangerous. I removed keel of our '71 and refinished. Basically you have to jack up the boat, roll out the trailer and drop the keel. I built a platform on heavy casters and uprights to keep the keel vertical. Then you can also replace trailer bunks and carpet at the same time. Can't remember (CRS) was the '74 keel cast iron or glassed over? A boat is a hole in the water into which you pour endless amounts of money. Keep us posted.
Was it me, I'd leave the keel alone aside from a visual inspection in place, and replacing the cable and bolt. Unless it leaks the pivot bolt is probably ok. It hasn't spent enough time in the water to develop any serious problems, mine had a similar history and it only has surface rust. You can get a keel winch from Northern Tool , you want a brake winch, a trailer winch with the reversible pawl is dangerous, and the cable from West Marine, you want 7/32 7strand wire about 11' long, you can use their tools to crimp the fittings in the store. I'd get it on the water before making it perfect, the little spiderweb cracks are probably just in the gelcoat and cosmetic.
Hillbillybuddha said: Great responses! Thanks. Oh, it is in fact a Venture as someone pointed out. V2-22 I believe. I bought something from West Marine that the sales guy highly suggested "in fact talked me out of spending money on paints and other stuff until I did this" . Removes oxidation and polishes. Once again, Thanks, I'm really excited about this new adventure. Click to expand
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This 1974 Macagregor Sailboat is amazing! It comes with a trailer. I’ve had it on the water for the summer and have taken many adventures on Moosehead lake. It comes with a Mariner 4hp two stroke...
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The first version was called the VENTURE 25. With relatively few changes, it became the MACGREGOR 25 (around 1980). With more than 7000 boats sold, it's one of the most popular models from this builder. Masthead Rig: I: 28.3′ J: 9.75′ P: 24.5′ E: 10.5′ Photo of Venture 25 courtesy Adam Hunt.
1974 Macgregor Venture 17. Boyne City, Michigan, United States. Listed Sep 11. Expired. $2,200 USD. Seller's Description. Up for sale is a 1974 venture 17 by Macgregor. I don't use the boat as much as I would like and a therefore selling it. It has a 3.5HP Mercury motor.
1974. 17' ' ' Pennsylvania. $2,500. Description: PA title and registration. Original sail restored (new boarder). Sail cover. All new rigging and lines. 2 motors (3 & 6 hp). New trailer hitch, fenders, lights and paint. ... Macgregor Sailboats Macgregor 17s Pennsylvania Macgregors. Featured Sailboats: Home. Register & Post. View All Sailboats.
5.5'. Tennessee. $1,700. Description: This boat has sails and all rigging. I sailed it last year. Comes with a well running tohatsu 3.5 hp motor and trailer. Trailer has been treated with rust treatment paint as it was rusting significantly. Has a new bimini cover, new electric bilge pump and plumbing and the wood has recently been refinished ...
Venture 25 is a 25′ 0″ / 7.6 m monohull sailboat designed by Roger MacGregor and built by Macgregor Yacht Corp between 1974 and 1979. Great choice! Your favorites are temporarily saved for this session. ... The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more. Formula. D/L ...
This MacGregor Yachts Venture 2-22 sailboat has a fiberglass hull and an LOA of 22 feet (length over all). The boat has a 74 inch beam. This sailboat is set up to sail as a Sloop. The craft has 177 square feet of sail area. Displacement for the boat is 1800 lbs. The draft of this sailboat is approximately 4'6".
Today, with some 36,000 sailboat hulls behind it, the company builds just one boat, the hybrid sailboat/powerboat MacGregor 26x. Although MacGregor sold fewer Venture 21s than its successor—the Venture 22, which later became the pop-top Venture 22-2—the 21's easy trailerability and affordable price helped it maintain its popularity ...
MacGregor Yacht Co. was founded by Roger MacGregor as part of a Stanford University MBA class project in the early 1960s. [1] The company was in business until early 2013, having been succeeded by Tattoo Yachts. [2] MacGregor produced primarily small, trailerable sailing yachts, from a 15-foot (4.6 m) catamaran to 17-foot (5.2 m) pocket cruisers, up to 26-foot (7.9 m) water ballasted ...
MacGregor Yacht Co. was founded by Roger MacGregor in 1961 as part of class project while he was an MBA student at the University of California. Located in southern California. The first boat was a small catamaran, but the product line consisted mainly of small, trailerable sailing yachts, from a 15-foot (4.6 m) catamaran to 17-foot (5.2 m) pocket cruisers, up to 26-foot water ballasted ...
How much is a used 1974 MacGregor worth. It has a furling, and spinnaker. Has a 8hp Nissan 1995 engine.\u000B\u000BGood shape, some minor spider cracks on cockpit deck, otherwise looks clean. Inside has running water, and radios.\u000B\u000BThanks \u000BPete
California. $1,500. Description: 21 Venture (MacGregor sailboat for sale. Retractable 400 lb keel. Clean title. Both boat and trailer are registered. Equipment: Jib sail, main sail, Genoa sail, trailer with new lights and new tires, inside cabin cushions in good shape, ropes, Danforth anchor, ladders.
Venture 17 is a 17′ 3″ / 5.3 m monohull sailboat designed by Roger MacGregor and built by Macgregor Yacht Corp between 1968 and 1974. Great choice! Your favorites are temporarily saved for this session. Sign in to save them permanently, access them on any device, and receive relevant alerts. ... The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power ...
13. MacGregor V2-22 Trailered. Apr 3, 2013. #1. My girl and I have been talking about learning how to sail and the other night she was looking over Craigslist and dreaming about boats. She then looked on the free section and saw a listing for a MacGregor with a trailer so we went and picked it up. The guy said it had been sitting in his field ...
1974 Venture 2-24. A forum for discussing topics relating to older MacGregor/Venture sailboats. Forum rules. 13 posts • Page 1 of 1. Silent Partner Deckhand Posts: 41 ... Sailboat: MacGregor 25 Location: Sacramento, CA. Re: 1974 Venture 2-24. Post by voltzwgn » Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:19 pm.
1974: Builder: MacGregor Yachts Corp. (USA) Designer: Roger Macgregor: Sailboat Calculations Definitions S.A. / Displ.: 25.96: ... Like the LWL, it will vary with the weights of fuel, water, stores and equipment. A boat's actual draft is usually somewhat more than the original designed or advertised draft. For boats with adjustable keels ...
1974 Macgregor Venture 17. $1,000 $2,500. Listed a week ago. a week ago. in Greenville, ME. Message. Message. Save. Save. Share. Details. Condition. Used - Good. This 1974 Macagregor Sailboat is amazing! It comes with a trailer. I've had it on the water for the summer and have taken many adventures on Moosehead lake. It comes with a Mariner ...
1974 MacGregor Yachts Venture 25. This MacGregor Yachts sailboat has a hull made of fiberglass and has an overall length of 25 feet. The beam (or width) of this craft is 711 inches. This sailboat is rigged as a Sloop. The sail area for the boat is 231 square feet. Approximate displacement for the vessel comes in at around 2400 pounds.
Emmanuel Flatten. Designed in 1973 by small-boat maven Roger MacGregor, the 25-footer has proven to be a successful design. Innovations included a retracting keel, pop-up rudder, that pop-up cabin top and an easy mast-stepping system, all of which enhanced its trailer-cruiser mission. The MacGregor 25 was in production for 14 years, with 7,000 ...
1974 Macgregor Venture 17. -. $1,500. (Greenville) This 1974 Macagregor Sailboat is amazing! It comes with a trailer. I've had it on the water for the summer and have taken many adventures on Moosehead lake. It comes with a Mariner 4hp two stroke engine just got serviced. Sails are in great shape.
1974 21' Macgregor Venture 21 sailboat for sale in HUNTINGTON BEACH California
Roger Macgregor: Sailboat Calculations Definitions S.A. / Displ.: 29.66: Bal. / Displ.: 34.04: Disp: / Len: 82.85: Comfort Ratio: 7.29: ... Like the LWL, it will vary with the weights of fuel, water, stores and equipment. A boat's actual draft is usually somewhat more than the original designed or advertised draft. For boats with adjustable ...
31' Mariner Ketch - Major Restoration & Repower - New Rigging & Sails Tenants Harbor Maine, Maine Asking $45,000
Macgregor 26 test drive, fibreglass boat restoration projects. Getting the boat rigged and into the water took some extra time, and the water ballast was unu...