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I have recently moved to a new club where the one-design racing fleets are not a good fit and have decided that I would be well served by racing in the PHRF fleet in a 18' to 22' sloop with a fixed or retractable keel and an assymetrical spinnaker.. I have identified several designs that meet my criteria but haven't had any luck finding them for sale. The price is too low to make this sort of boat worth handling for yacht brokers. The class associations seem moribund. Using Search Tempest to comb Craig's List offerings within 800 miles I found only one offering and it was more of project than I'm willing to undertake. Do you have other avenues to find a small PHRF racer?
Maybe Facebook Marketplace? Otherwise, I have found new listings by just googling the boat. What boats are you looking for, and where? There may be some on this forum that would have a lead.
The Big Cat said: I have recently moved to a new club where the one-design racing fleets are not a good fit and have decided that I would be well served by racing in the PHRF fleet in a 18' to 22' sloop with a fixed or retractable keel and an assymetrical spinnaker.. I have identified several designs that meet my criteria but haven't had any luck finding them for sale. The price is too low to make this sort of boat worth handling for yacht brokers. The class associations seem moribund. Using Search Tempest to comb Craig's List offerings within 800 miles I found only one offering and it was more of project than I'm willing to undertake. Do you have other avenues to find a small PHRF racer? Click to expand...
Also, What is your budget and where are you in the country?
Have you tried sailboatlistings.com? Has boats for sale by owner and in all sizes. Note however that many listings are old and don't seem to get removed.
Covid has squashed the post-race socialization where I'd normally get most the skinny on boats available. I have heard a couple of boats from the one-design fleets but I don't think that they are a good fit. I don't see any boats in the PHRF fleet that appeal to me. I think that the sweet spot in the PHRF fleet is about 165 rating. I'm looking for a small keel boat with a rating around there. My first thoughts are C&C SR Max 21, Sonar, or Impulse 21. Other prospects include: Irwin mini-ton, Ranger 23, Santana 20, and Santana 23-D. I am on the Delaware River near Philadelphia. I'm willing to travel up 600 miles for a good boat on a good trailer. The boat will be kept at a mooring. Budget would not be a constraint. My previous boats were J/27(raced PHRF), J/30 ( raced both PHRF and one-design; lost in Sandy), and a Thistle.(one-design) I have exhausted Sailboatlisting.com and Texas sailing. All relevant listings are out-of-date. Most owners didn't respond. The few that did respond told me that they had sold the boat three or more years ago.
The Big Cat said: Covid has squashed the post-race socialization where I'd normally get most the skinny on boats available. I have heard a couple of boats from the one-design fleets but I don't think that they are a good fit. I don't see any boats in the PHRF fleet that appeal to me. I think that the sweet spot in the PHRF fleet is about 165 rating. I'm looking for a small keel boat with a rating around there. My first thoughts are C&C SR Max 21, Sonar, or Impulse 21. Other prospects include: Irwin mini-ton, Ranger 23, Santana 20, and Santana 23-D. I am on the Delaware River near Philadelphia. I'm willing to travel up 600 miles for a good boat on a good trailer. The boat will be kept at a mooring. Budget would not be a constraint. My previous boats were J/27(raced PHRF), J/30 ( raced both PHRF and one-design; lost in Sandy), and a Thistle.(one-design) I have exhausted Sailboatlisting.com and Texas sailing. All relevant listings are out-of-date. Most owners didn't respond. The few that did respond told me that they had sold the boat three or more years ago. Click to expand...
Thanks, the J/22 is raced in a highly competitive, one-design fleet at the club. I'm new to the club and getting long of tooth; I'm afraid I wouldn't have much luck recruiting a compettive crew. Twenty years ago I would have been on it like stink on poop.
The Ranger 23 and the Santana 23D are both competitive under PHRF. My only comment is that any 22-24 foot boat will require an equal size, and equally skilled crew to race competitively. Personally, I found the J-22 to be a super boat and affordable boat to race one design, but not as easily competitive under PHRF. Jeff
At the affordable end of the range are boats little the Wavelength 24, Capri 25, Kirby 25, j-24 and S2 6.9. A little more expensive is the Tripp 26. Jeff
The Big Cat said: I have recently moved to a new club where the one-design racing fleets are not a good fit and have decided that I would be well served by racing in the PHRF fleet in a 18' to 22' sloop with a fixed or retractable keel and an asymmetrical spinnaker.. I have identified several designs that meet my criteria but haven't had any luck finding them for sale. The price is too low to make this sort of boat worth handling for yacht brokers. The class associations seem moribund. Using Search Tempest to comb Craig's List offerings within 800 miles I found only one offering and it was more of project than I'm willing to undertake. Do you have other avenues to find a small PHRF racer? Click to expand...
odj22sailor said: I have the boat you might be looking for.. I have a extremely fast Capri 22 with a tall mast deep keel and I set it up with asymmetrical spinnaker. if you interested call Dave @240-357-8109 Click to expand...
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Capri 22 tall rig fin keep would be a very competitive shorthanded PHRF boat, but in the 200 range. Jeff's suggestions were much closer, Capri 25, and Wavelength 24, both of which can be competitive short handed if sailed right. Another bigger in same range might be an S2 7.9, there are real boats available on s279.org but they are drawing top dollar now. Ultimate 24 might work but will require some crew. Buying a boat now will be tough and expensive. Check Sailing Anarchy classifieds. Also if you are getting old listing on sailboatlistings you aren't paying attention to posting date. People post them but rarely remove them, same with sailingtexas. Always check posting date first. Craigslist will sometimes find rare boats that aren't listed elsewhere.
Find yacht clubs and sailing clubs that are near you--search online, ask around. Look at their websites--they will either have a FOR SALE/SAIL section, &/or NEWSLETTERS. Newsletters nearly always have For Sale listings. Give someone a call, odds are good they will love to chat about boats and sailing. Yeah/No, yacht brokers aren't going to have what you described! You are right.
Thank you all for your assistance. Since the sailing season has ended for most, a few appropriate boats have started to appear on Craigslist.
I found a W. D. Schock Wavelength 24 through Searchtempest.com. It's been well maintained and has reasonably fresh sails. Now I need to find and develop crew.
The Big Cat said: I found a W. D. Schock Wavelength 24 through Searchtempest.com. It's been well maintained and has reasonably fresh sails. Now I need to find and develop crew. Click to expand...
I did buy the Wavelength 24 and am very happy with it. I have started racing it and have enjoyed success in light air. We've practiced a bit in more wind and it looks like it will be a hoot.
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C&c sr 21 manufacturer: c&c yachts designed by: glenn henderson.
| LOA | 21.08′ |
| LWL | 18′ |
| Beam | 8′ |
| Draft (Deep) | 4.5′ |
| Draft (Shoal) | .92′ |
| Displacement | 1,380 lbs. |
| Ballast | 439 lbs. |
| Sail Area | 203.84 sq. ft. |
| Rig: I | 22.11′ |
| Rig: J | 7.25′ |
| Rig: E | 9.69′ |
| Rig: P | 25.53′ |
| Sail Area (Main) | 123.69 sq. ft. |
| Sail Area (100% Jib) | 80.15 sq. ft. |
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The Sr 21 is a 21.08ft fractional sloop designed by Glenn Henderson and built in fiberglass by C&C Yachts since 1992.
The Sr 21 is a light sailboat which is a very high performer. It is stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat.
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| Model | Sr 21 | ||
| Length | 21.08 ft | ||
| Beam | 8 ft | ||
| Draft | 0.92 ft | ||
| Country | United states (North America) | ||
| Estimated price | $ 0 | ?? |
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| Sail area / displ. | 26.39 | ||
| Ballast / displ. | 31.81 % | ||
| Displ. / length | 105.64 | ||
| Comfort ratio | 7.06 | ||
| Capsize | 2.88 |
| Hull type | Monohull lifting keel | ||
| Construction | Fiberglass | ||
| Waterline length | 18 ft | ||
| Maximum draft | 4.50 ft | ||
| Displacement | 1380 lbs | ||
| Ballast | 439 lbs | ||
| Hull speed | 5.69 knots |
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| Rigging | Fractional Sloop | ||
| Sail area (100%) | 204 sq.ft | ||
| Air draft | 0 ft | ?? | |
| Sail area fore | 80.15 sq.ft | ||
| Sail area main | 123.69 sq.ft | ||
| I | 22.11 ft | ||
| J | 7.25 ft | ||
| P | 25.53 ft | ||
| E | 9.69 ft |
| Nb engines | 1 | ||
| Total power | 0 HP | ||
| Fuel capacity | 0 gals |
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| Headroom | 0 ft | ||
| Nb of cabins | 0 | ||
| Nb of berths | 0 | ||
| Nb heads | 0 |
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| Builder | C&C Yachts | ||
| Designer | Glenn Henderson | ||
| First built | 1992 | ||
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| Number built | 0 | ?? |
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1989 SOLD!!! Henderson SR MAX 21 Ft Hull #121
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SOLD!!! Glen Henderson’s personal ride. Foam core hull and deck. Modified with double spreader carbon mast (no backstay), deck-mounted articulating carbon bowsprit, mast head asymmetrical spinnaker, square top main, tacktick, boomkicker, newer paint job in excellent condition, good road worthy trailer, retractable keel, cassette rudder. Comes with 3 spinnakers, one in new condition (M20 chutes), 3 Jibs, 2 in newer/excellent condition, 2 square top mains, one in newer/excellent condition. Easy to launch and sail with 2-4 people, fast and fun, PHRF killer!!! Boat is in excellent condition and ready to go win.
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1.) In light air, keep the weight forward. 2.) In heavy air move the weight aft. 3.) Roll Tack and Gybe in light air. 4.) Backstay on in heavy air. Now I will be the first to admit that every boat has its little quirks thus the info about driving and the specifics about the rig in this example.
4,399. 3. Both places at the same time. Oct 26, 2012. #16. SR 21--heavier than the Viper...probably a bit better upwind in slop. Rating ought to make up the difference in speed. SR 21 is not as wet as the Viper & should be better in the light stuff---it is a Henderson design, afterall. BTW, Glenn oversaw the build.
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While i have never sailed on a U 20 i personally believe the SR 21 is a better boat.Its faster and alot cheaper.Boats that are in pretty good shape cost around 7500-9000 with a few sails.Im not sure how the competition is in the U 20 class so im not gonna bash them but competition in the 21 class is pretty good and racing gets pretty intense at ...
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The C&C SR 21 is a Canadian racing sailboat that was designed by Glenn Henderson and first built in 1992. It was introduced under the name SR MAX. Production. The design was built by C&C Yachts starting in 1992, but it is now out of production. Design. The SR 21 is a racing ...
Sailors and Owners of Henderson Designed SR Max 21 sailboats. Racing, Tuning, General Sailing Mischief. Private. Only members can see who's in the group and what they post. Visible. Anyone can find this group. History. Group created on June 4, 2017. Name last changed on August 22, 2022.
I'm looking for a small keel boat with a rating around there. My first thoughts are C&C SR Max 21, Sonar, or Impulse 21. Other prospects include: Irwin mini-ton, Ranger 23, Santana 20, and Santana 23-D. I am on the Delaware River near Philadelphia. I'm willing to travel up 600 miles for a good boat on a good trailer. The boat will be kept at a ...
C&C SR 21 < Return to C&C Yachts. C&C SR 21 ... 1,380 lbs. Ballast: 439 lbs. Sail Area: 203.84 sq. ft. Rig: I: 22.11′ Rig: J: 7.25′ Rig: E: 9.69′ Rig: P: 25.53′ Sail Area (Main) 123.69 sq. ft. Sail Area (100% Jib) 80.15 sq. ft. Related Products User Groups, Forums & Clubs > New Facebook Posts.
I am trying to narrow down my search for a small keel-boat and would like some thoughts on these three: Santana 20, Catalina 22 & SR Max 21. How would these rate in the following: Best PHRF performer in light to moderate air, flat water, upwind downwind courses, when sailing against...
Henderson 21, SR Max, 1993. 21' racing sailboat 1993 - (SR MAX). Good set of sails - lots of accessories. PHRF monster-PHRF (168) closet full of trophies. Custom trailer with new axel and bearings. 1993 tahatsu 2.5 (needs TLC) From trailer to in the water race ready 20 Min. Launch in 18" of water-lifting keep. $6000.00 must see - in Slidell.
The Sr 21 is a 21.08ft fractional sloop designed by Glenn Henderson and built in fiberglass by C&C Yachts since 1992. The Sr 21 is a light sailboat which is a very high performer. It is stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat.
Seller's Description. Go to Sailing Texas classifieds for current sailboats for sale SR Max 21', by C and C yachts, 1993 Boat is race ready needing nothing. Very nice bunk style trailer included, safe for cross country. Nice Keel lifter. UK Carbon main, Dacron main, Uk Carbon 155%, heavy number one, blade, 2 kites one Sobstad used in two ...
1993 SR Max 21' racing machine PHRF 163. 2 mains,2 number 1s,blade,new Sobstad kite,one more kite, great custom keel lifter,brand new Yamaha 2.5, extras, real nice trailer with bunks. ... Just race this boat hard.Just finished 1st overall at local regatta beating other SRs, J24s,J30s,J90. Advertisement. This listing is presented by ...
504. 36. Cape Canaveral, FL USA. Jun 6, 2013. #3. On a healthy SR Max, that keel isn't supposed to move.....neither is the cassette rudder for that matter. With the boat on a lift, I've sat, crawled, hung, pushed and pulled on that little bulb with no movement at all. With the keel down, hop over the side, swim down to the bulb and give it a yank.
Go to Sailing Texas classifieds for current sailboats for sale . Henderson Modified SR Max 21, 1989 Foam core hull and deck. Retractable keel for trailering. Cassette rudder. Modified from original with: A carbon mast with double swept back spreaders. A deck mounted articulating carbon bow sprit. 400+ sq.ft. asymmetrical spinnaker. Square top main.
Go to Sailing Texas classifieds for current sailboats for sale. SR Max 21, 1993. Mad Max. $7,800. Very fast and fun. Fresh water boat. White hull with custom painted graphics. 10 sails: 3-mains, 3-155% jibs, 2-blade jibs, 2-spinnakers. Newer US Spar mast and running rigging.
Henderson SR MAX 21 Ft Hull #121. Wenatchee, WA, US. Listed Jun 14. Expired. $0 USD. Save. Share. Share. SMS. Email. Facebook. Twitter. Pinterest. ... Easy to launch and sail with 2-4 people, fast and fun, PHRF killer!!! Boat is in excellent condition and ready to go win. Advertisement. This listing is presented by SailingAnarchy.com. Visit ...
didn't meet one pompous ass in florida at tmy first Sr regatta on a carter. met WQB in sarasota and and bunc of othere anarcists. Relatively new to racng. but great class to start. first time sailing an SR. 9th of 13, but close racing overall. Gotta get weight outside and keep up flat. Like any boat, it takes some gettin used to.
Henderson SR Max 21, 1990, Sanford, Florida, $6,895, price reduced 9/14/09 to $6,481, Ad expired: Home: Lessons: ... Advertise with us: Contact: Free Sailboat Ad: Go to Sailing Texas classifieds for current sailboats for sale . 1990 Henderson SR Max 21 Hull # 185 21 Feet long 3 main sails 2 genoa sails 2 jibs Maffioli jib sheets 2 spinnakers
SR MAX 21 Sailboat - $2,000 (Annapolis) ... 21. make / manufacturer: C&C. year manufactured: 1993. QR Code Link to This Post. 1993 C&C SRMAX with lots of sails and trailer. post id: 7771180941. posted: 22 days ago. updated: 17 days ago. ♥ best of .
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