alberg 22 sailboat review

Review of Alberg 22

Basic specs..

The hull is made of fibreglass. Generally, a hull made of fibreglass requires only a minimum of maintenance during the sailing season. And outside the sailing season, just bottom cleaning and perhaps anti-fouling painting once a year - a few hours of work, that's all.

The Alberg 22 is equipped with a long keel. A full keel provide a better directional stability than a similar boat with a fin keel; on the other hand, better directional stability means also that the boat is more difficult to handle in a harbour with less space.

The boat can enter even shallow marinas as the draft is just about 0.94 - 1.04 meter (3.08 - 3.38 ft) dependent on the load. See immersion rate below.

Sailing characteristics

This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.

What is Capsize Screening Formula (CSF)?

The capsize screening value for Alberg 22 is 1.90, indicating that this boat could - if evaluated by this formula alone - be accepted to participate in ocean races.

What is Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed?

The theoretical maximal speed of a displacement boat of this length is 5.4 knots. The term "Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed" is widely used even though a boat can sail faster. The term shall be interpreted as above the theoretical speed a great additional power is necessary for a small gain in speed.

The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Alberg 22 is about 69 kg/cm, alternatively 389 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 69 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 389 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.

Sailing statistics

This section is statistical comparison with similar boats of the same category. The basis of the following statistical computations is our unique database with more than 26,000 different boat types and 350,000 data points.

What is Motion Comfort Ratio (MCR)?

What is L/B (Length Beam Ratio)?

What is a Ballast Ratio?

What is Displacement Length Ratio?

SA/D (Sail Area Displacement ratio) Indicates how fast the boat is in light wind: - Cruising Boats have ratios 10-15 - Cruiser-Racers have ratios 16-20 - Racers have ratios above 20 - High-Performance Racers have ratios above 24 Sail-area/displacement ratio (SA/D ratio): 17.68

Maintenance

When buying anti-fouling bottom paint, it's nice to know how much to buy. The surface of the wet bottom is about 7m 2 (75 ft 2 ). Based on this, your favourite maritime shop can tell you the quantity you need.

If you need to renew parts of your running rig and is not quite sure of the dimensions, you may find the estimates computed below useful.

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22 Feet 1979 Allen Nye Yachts Alberg 22 Sailboat

$4,995 (usd), boat id: 37439, contact us directly - 800-675-4089, learn how the process works (faq).

Why take the kids camping when for less than the cost of a camping trailer you can own a 22 foot live-aboard sailboat. The Alberg 22 sleeps 4 comfortably and is equipped with a head (toilet) with extended range tank, sink and cooler for your food and beer. The Alberg 22 is a safe sail boat with a full keel it is self righting, several Alberg 22 have sailed across the Atlantic to Europe. The boat comes equipped with Roller Furling Jib and Genoa, the main sail is slab reefing. The boat is in excellent condition with one small patch in the main sail. The boat comes with anchor and line as well as a 6 hp Johnson auxiliary outboard mounted in the lazerette. The Alberg 22 was purchased new in 1979and equipped with a new 6 hp Johnson outboard motor.

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The Alberg 22 is a 22.0ft masthead sloop designed by Carl Alberg and built in fiberglass by Nye Yachts (CAN) since 1970.

180 units have been built..

The Alberg 22 is a heavy sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is very stable / stiff and has a good righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a coastal cruiser.

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South Coast 22

South Coast 22 is a 22 ′ 0 ″ / 6.7 m monohull sailboat designed by Carl Alberg and built by South Coast Seacraft Co. starting in 1968.

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Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

South Coast redesigned the Alberg SOUTH COAST 21 by lengthening it, enlarging the cabin trunk, and replacing the fin keel with a swing keel. It was the most successful boat built by South Coast Co. with over 3000 produced. Nearly the same as the NORTHBRIDGE ECLIPSE.

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One of the oldest fiberglass boats, this traditional overnighter is long on looks, short on space.

The Sea Sprite 23 is a trim but rugged daysailer-overnighter from naval architect Carl A. Alberg that enjoyed a 25-year production run under several different Rhode Island builders, most notably Clarke Ryder. It’s a typical Alberg design—narrow beam, full keel and conservative ballast-to-displacement ratio and graceful lines. This is a boat that still turns heads when it sails into a harbor.

The origins of the Sea Sprite 23 go back to 1958 when the small American Boat Building company of East Greenwich, Rhode Island, wanted to expand its product line, consisting at the time of the Block Island 40. Carl Alberg, then in the U.S. Coast Guard, came up with a 22 1/2-foot, full-keel design. (We’re not sure what Alberg’s duties were in the Coast Guard, but they apparently left plenty of free time; besides the Sea Sprite, Alberg also drew the Pearson Triton and Bristol 27 while in the service.) The Sprite, incidentally, was first marketed as a 22; a later builder accentuated the positive and it became the 23.

American Boat Building employee Tom Potter Remembers being asked to test sail the new design. “We were terribly impressed by the boat, the way it performed.” It was, Potter said, typical of most of the boats Alberg would design over the years—”sensible boats you could take to sea.”

When American Boat Building dissolved during the early 1960s, production of the Sea Sprite was taken over by the nearby Wickford Shipyard, which built it for several years, after which the molds passed briefly to Sailstar, another small Rhode Island company, then to Clint Pearson, who was starting up his own Bristol Boat Company across Narragansett Bay.

Earlier, cousins Clint and Everett Pearson had obtained the rights to the Triton, which American Boat Building for some reason had not wanted. But when Bristol employee Paul Coble designed the Corsair 24, the rights to the Sea Sprite were sold to another Bristol builder, Clarke E. Ryder. This was about 1974, and Ryder continued to build the 23 until 1985 when his company folded.

Ryder built new molds for the boat, encapsulating the heretofore external lead keel and creating a self-bailing cockpit. Except for a few other minor changes and the introduction of hull colors besides white—bright red, blue and green—the Sea Sprite 23 built by Ryder (he began with hull #525) was fundamentally the same as the first off the line at American Boat Building. All told, the model reached a run of nearly 800 before Ryder closed the doors on this highly successful boat.

Like most of Alberg’s boats, the 23 is relatively narrow of beam (7′ 0″) and heavily ballasted—43 percent of its weight is in the full keel. Freeboard and superstructure are low, which makes for pleasing lines but less than spacious accommodations below. In short, this is a boat designed for sailing and not lounging around belowdecks.

With a waterline length of just 16′ 3″, the boat rated well (16.6) under the old Cruising Club of America (CCA) rules. It is intended to heel 30 degrees or so when underway (some regard this as initial tenderness), adding waterline length and increasing hull speed. The heeling angle plus the low freeboard—the rail gets close to the water—can bring an occasional dousing for the crew in a chop. But the boat is inherently stable, and the gentle sheer and distinctive overhangs add to its seagoing profile. The 23 draws only three feet, virtually shoal draft and less than many smaller boats.

Under the more modern PHRF rating system, which is a performance-based handicap system rather than a measurement rule, the Sprite has an average rating of about 270 seconds per mile—hardly a rule-beater, but reasonably fast for a full-keeled 23-footer. (One owner crowed about beating those “tubby” Cape Dorys—in all likelihood a competing Alberg design.)

The Sprite carries a modest 247 square feet of sail under main and working jib. (The newer O’Day 23, by contrast, is lighter by almost 300 pounds and has 246 square feet.) Early in its career, the Sea Sprite also came in a daysailer model, with an eight-foot cockpit instead of the standard six, and with two berths below instead of four, and no galley or icebox. Apparently few were made, which is understandable because the standard model has ample cockpit space and little enough room below.

Construction

The hull, deck and cabinhouse of the Ryder-built boats are solid, hand-laid fiberglass for a tight, sound body. One owner called the boat “overbuilt.” The hull/deck joint is a typical inward flange sealed with 3M 5200 and fastened with machine screws.

Most fiberglass boats older than 10 to 15 years show deterioration of the gelcoat and require painting. This will be true of many used Sea Sprites, too. None of the owners who responded to our survey reported gelcoat blistering, however. Some of the earlier models seemed to experience slight leaks around the mast step or chainplates; several of the Ryder boats apparently had leaking from the pulpit stanchions. Otherwise, the interiors are reported to be dry. Overall, the Sea Sprites seem to be structurally sound with no major repairs called for and few, if any, cosmetic problems. A 1983 model we sailed looked almost new.

The Sea Sprite was built as a top-of-the-line “sailing yacht,” as company literature described it. The quality shows in the non-skid surfaces on the deck and deckhouse, the standard bronze hardware, including opening portlights, and in the generous use of wood—mahogany coamings and backrest and teak grabrails above, and lots of teak trim below. Ryder introduced a full interior liner (previous models were painted fiberglass), and the judicious use of holly and teak helps offset the shiny white surfaces. We don’t know whether the Sea Sprite’s teak cockpit grids were standard on all models, but they are a nice touch.

The boats, at least the Ryder version, carry a 30- foot fractionally rigged mast by Hall Spars. The mast is deck-stepped and halyards are led internally. The small deckhouse makes for a roomy foredeck, which is reached via comfortably wide walkways.

Performance

Several of our readers say the Sea Sprite exhibits fairly sluggish light-air performance, which is a common complaint among smaller full-keel boats. Others have found that raising a 130- or 150-percent genoa in winds under 10 knots makes a definite improvement.

Performance improves noticeably as the wind pipes up and the boat digs in. Although the rail is near the water, the boat, once in its sailing mode, seems very stable and the steering nicely balanced with just a hint of weather helm. The low freeboard enhances the feeling of being on the water which, for a small-boat enthusiast at least, is worth the occasional spray in a head sea. And while the keel-hung rudder doesn’t respond as rapidly as a spade would, the 23 tacks smartly enough. One owner, who now sails a J/Boat, remembered his Sea Sprite’s tacking ability as “not unreasonably slow.”

This is a small boat that handles well when the going gets rough and goes readily offshore—no worries about early reefing here. One owner we know said he “never thought twice” about sailing his Sea Sprite to Block Island or Cuttyhunk. In fact, Ryder used to tout a transatlantic trip—60 days from Wickford, Rhode Island to Falmouth, England—made in 1974 by a 21-year-old singlehander as evidence of the boat’s ocean-going qualities. (The only damage—to the skipper—occurred when he tripped on the dock in England and broke his ankle.)

Moving under power, however, is another matter. A 4-hp outboard, which is located in a well aft of the tiller, will get the boat to hull speed; anything smaller is a strain, more than 6 hp and you may experience control problems. The outboard well is the usual nuisance and several readers surveyed either had banished the motor below or would like to. The best that can be said for the well is that it preserves the lines of the boat. Outboard performance is inversely proportionate to wind and waves. Having once fought a losing battle against gusting winds, tide and current, with ground speed reduced to about zero, we can attest to the Sea Sprite’s poor performance under power in these conditions. If only the channel had been wide enough to hoist the sails….

Ryder for a time offered an optional Yanmar Model 1 GM diesel. This would no doubt eliminate many of the headaches associated with the outboard motor and well, but the weight and expense of an inboard seems difficult to justify. None of the readers responding to our questionnaire own inboard models.

Down below, the cabin is light and reasonably airy with two opening ports and a smoked hatch. Despite some complaints about the lack of room (even Clarke Ryder says the interior is best suited for stowing stuff) we found there was satisfactory sitting headroom if you are under six feet. The 6′ 0″ V-berths are too short and have minimal clearance; the 6′ 3″ settee berths in the main cabin disappear quickly under the cockpit seats. This is an interior that is definitely not for the claustrophobic, but at least you won’t need lee cloths. The marine head (many owners have replaced it with a portable head) is located in a wedge at the foot of the V-berths where its virtual inaccessibility makes the privacy issue moot. To be fair, this is typical of the arrangements on most boats of this size.

To starboard, between the forward and main berths, is the “galley,” consisting of a sink and some stowage. To port, there’s an insulated icebox and more dry storage. The sink, fed by a 10-gallon fiberglass water tank under the starboard berth, drains via a through-hull. The icebox drains into the bilge. There’s more stowage, under bunks and here and there, but it’s basically covered openings to the bilge. On deck, there’s good storage space in a port locker and a fuel locker to starboard that’s sized for a three-gallon tank.

Conclusions

The Sea Sprite 23 isn’t for everyone. A lack of space and accommodations relegates it to the daysailer/occasional overnighter category. Although it lacks cruising luxuries, it is an exceptional daysailer—seaworthy and strongly built, and with a sailing range that belies its small size. Its stability and ease of handling make it a good choice for the older sailor who doesn’t need a big boat anymore, or for a small family primarily interested in day sailing.

We saw several Sea Sprites listed for sale this past fall (1991) in the $6,500 range—a good price for a well-built boat that’s going to be around for a while. Older Sprites originally sold for $5,000 (minus sails) with the later Ryder models going for about $11,000.

The Sprites can be said to have held their value well while still representing a bargain relative to what you get. As Clarke Ryder says, “They sail like a charm and they’re pretty. People who have them love them.”

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Alberg 22 - possible to launch / retrieve solo?

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This seems like a heavy fixed keel boat. It’s described as trailerable but I’m wondering if that’s for storage or if it’s realistic to attempt to launch and retrieve this boat on my own with the trailer from a ramp (without a lift). I’m a fairly strong young guy for reference but seems like this one may need a lift.  

The Alberg is heavy for its length, at 3200# most 22' boats weigh closer to 2000#. The issue for trailer launching a sailboat is having a vehicle that can tow the boat, with a trailer and boat equipment you'll be looking at around 5,000#. The other issue is finding a ramp that is steep enough to allow the boat to float off the trailer or have a trailer with a long enough extension. The draft is a little over 3 feet add another foot or so for the trailer height and you will need 4-5 feet of water when the wheels are submerged. Stepping the mast is the other issue. It can probably be done by one person if the set up is correct. Two people will make it much easier. While the Albert can be trailed, it is not a boat you want to keep at home and trailer to ramp for a day sail, especially single handed. It will take some time to step and unstep the mast and prep the boat for launch and retrieval. It would be easier if the boat can be kept on the trailer with the mast up, rigging the mast and putting the sails on can be time consuming. Best bet, keep it in a slip or on a mooring. You will use the boat more.  

Three thousand pounds and 3' draft. You would want to check the ramps you would plan to use to make sure they're long enough and deep enough to handle the depth. Depending upon the ramp angle you'd likely need a tongue extender to get the trailer in far enough for the boat to float off. Then you'll need a monster truck to pull it up out of the water. Probably not something you'd want to do more than a couple of times a season. Lining up the boat on the trailer could also be interesting. Can you see through the water 3' down to make sure the keel is in the right place? Not around here.  

Thank you @PaulK and @dlochner - I have a keep capable of 6-7k tow capacity. The expectation would be to trailer it the remainder of this season and get a mooring for next season. I just want to make sure I’d be able to take her out a few more times this year if I’m going to make the purchase now.  

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You have likely explored this possibility, but at my marina they have a dry storage area that makes it possible to leave the boat rigged, ready to be pulled over to the launch ramp. If your marina offers that it could make life easier.  

stickinthemud57 said: You have likely explored this possibility, but at my marina they have a dry storage area that makes it possible to leave the boat rigged, ready to be pulled over to the launch ramp. If your marina offers that it could make life easier. Click to expand

Anchored87 said: Yes but free driveway storage sounded better Click to expand

stickinthemud57 said: I definitely hear that. Freedom from re-rigging and de-rigging being the advantage, of course. Click to expand

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Kings Gambit said: I once owned a 3000# Grady White 20 Overnighter. I trailered it with my 1987 Bronco II which had the 6000# towing package upgrade. The Bronco II was four wheel drive, which I engaged to launch, and especially recover, the boat. If you find yourself on a wet, steep ramp with algal growth, and especially if the rear wheels are even slightly in the water, you should anticipate possible loss of rear wheel traction and maybe even slide further down the ramp trying to recover. A “monster truck” with big wheels/tires might or might not be needed to launch and recover safely, depending. But 4WD is a blessing to have for that kind of work at anytime. Engage the 4WD in lowest gear and just let the truck crawl up the ramp! The “hassle factor” for what you plan is quite high. Click to expand

I once had a keen interest in a MacGregor 26M trailerable boat. I found a guy with a 26X who was willing to take me for a sail. We met at his boat ramp, and it took an hour to set the boat up and get it in th water…we sailed and came back to the boat ramp, where we spent another hour and a half getting the boat back on the trailer, removing the sails, dropping the mast, etc. I learned 2 things that day… 1) Didn’t want a Mac 26M for Lake Michigan sailing 2) I would keep what ever boat I bought in a slip…. Greg  

Tally Ho said: I once had a keen interest in a MacGregor 26M trailerable boat. I found a guy with a 26X who was willing to take me for a sail. We met at his boat ramp, and it took an hour to set the boat up and get it in th water…we sailed and came back to the boat ramp, where we spent another hour and a half getting the boat back on the trailer, removing the sails, dropping the mast, etc. I learned 2 things that day… 1) Didn’t want a Mac 26M for Lake Michigan sailing 2) I would keep what ever boat I bought in a slip…. Greg Click to expand

stickinthemud57 said: Good decisions, both, and this from a Mac 26S owner. Click to expand

Not addressing water ballast vs. fixed keel issue, but in general: trying to sail off a trailer would be reasonable (IMO) if you were launching for a week or two. To do this every time you want to sail, my god, that's one heck of a lot of work for most of us. With the Hunter 23 we had in 2001 to 2004, we ended up keeping it in a slip, and it was well worth the expense. You do save money on winter storage and haul/launch with a trailerable boat, but the cost in time/labor for regular usage if you don't have a slip or mooring is high. My recommendation would be, if you can remotely afford it, keep it in a slip during the sailing season and trailer it back to the house for the winter. Of course, you also get to take your boat by road to different locations, which most of us can't do.  

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TRAILER SAILORS ADAPT. For 18 years I sailed a trailer sailer. 35 minutes to rig or take down. 1.5ft keel plus center board. I changed the mast step so that I could attach the mast and pivot it up on the mast step. It worked easily by attaching the pivot bolt then pushing the mast up from the cockpit. The stays were attached and as it reached vertical, I pulled in the jib halyard that was attached to the bow. This held the mast in place till I could step down from the boat and attach the forestay to the bow. Back the trailer into the water, float off the trailer and paddle the boat to the nearby dock. Tie up then go get the truck and park the truck and trailer. It was a slick process that allowed me to solo sail. On occasion an interested individual would ask if they could help. I gave them the jib halyard and said "When I say go pull up the mast and hold it in place while I get down and attach the wire stay". It worked easily as well. Usually if they showed interest, I would give them a sail experience for helping. Trailer sailing is a great way to enjoy the sport.  

jssailem said: TRAILER SAILORS ADAPT. For 18 years I sailed a trailer sailer. 35 minutes to rig or take down. 1.5ft keel plus center board. I changed the mast step so that I could attach the mast and pivot it up on the mast step. It worked easily by attaching the pivot bolt then pushing the mast up from the cockpit. The stays were attached and as it reached vertical, I pulled in the jib halyard that was attached to the bow. This held the mast in place till I could step down from the boat and attach the forestay to the bow. Back the trailer into the water, float off the trailer and paddle the boat to the nearby dock. Tie up then go get the truck and park the truck and trailer. It was a slick process that allowed me to solo sail. On occasion an interested individual would ask if they could help. I gave them the jib halyard and said "When I say go pull up the mast and hold it in place while I get down and attach the wire stay". It worked easily as well. Usually if they showed interest, I would give them a sail experience for helping. Trailer sailing is a great way to enjoy the sport. Click to expand

Tally Ho said: Yep. Not slamming Mac’s. Just didn’t care for the water ballast boats. Greg Click to expand

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Go to a keel boat regatta (Star/J-22/24) and watch how fast keel boats on a trailer can be launched. All you need is a crane/hoist! I advise joining a sailing/yacht club (so equipped) to gain the use of the facility and benefit from hanging out with sailors. A public launch is usually crowded, which you'll tie up stepping your mast. Typically you won't float off without a tongue extension. Even then it really depends on the terrain. It's an exercise in masochism.  

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> > > Alberg 22 Discussion Tools Mark This Discussion Read - - - - - - - Privacy Guaranteed - your email is never shared with anyone, opt out any time. Forum Listing Marketplace Advanced Search About The Boat Boat Review Forum SailNet is a forum community dedicated to Sailing enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about sailing, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, repairs, reviews, maintenance, and more! Alberg 37 Pros and Cons? Add to quote I came across an older Alberg 37, interested, no sails listed, has a number of things I like, and some questions, says to being redone, wont know unless/until I call, pros and cons on her ? My interest would be for a cruising live aboard.   Do you post a thread about every boat you look at??? You've posted on Endeavors, a Pearson 39' CB, a couple of glass-hulled wooden boats, and had a thread asking about production bluew water boats... Have you actually stepped aboard any of these boats, or are you just looking at their specifications?? If you haven't stepped aboard any of them, you might want to step aboard a few and get an idea of whether you like the boat or not. Any boat you don't like off the boat...is probably one that you shouldn't even be asking about. As for living aboard... I am not familiar with the Alberg 37 but do know of at least two families that liveaboard on Alberg 30s., which I am fairly familiar with... so I don't see that being a big problem. You might want to read this , this , and this .   C'mon, SD, lighten up a little. Jake, we had an A37 in a neighbouring slip some years ago, the owner was very fond of her. His was a sloop, they were also offered as a yawl, I believe. Like all Albergs they have nice lines and full underbodies. Relatively narrow, they will have less liveaboard space than more current designs. The major negative for these types of boats is that they will be nearly impossible to back up in a straight line, and close quarters maneouvering will be difficult. Whether this is a big factor will depend on your moorage situation and your intended usage.   Alberg 37 Hey SD good to have you here, if I lose track of which ones I consider I can just check with you. To answer your question, yes, some, others are about half a continent away, it seems logical, even reasonable to ask on an open forum for input on them. I have been researching them as I go along, and develop perceptions on them, I'd rather not just go with that and the brokers statements for my only input. Before I do any surveys I will be first ruling out any that wont work for me, and once I have some reasonable sounding ones I'll go look at them. Seems reasonable to me. As all are a day or mores driving minimum it seems logical to get all the input that I can before making a several days trip. This IS an open forum isnt it ? It IS about buying a boat isnt it ? Anyone who doesnt want to respond has no requirement to. Or did I miss something here ? Anyhow, thanks for your input, it is appreciated. It really is.   SD those first two links I had, the 3rd one is the kind of stuff I am looking for, I have gotten some owner input: as the zincs being very dificult to reach, preferring to cruise on a 20 degree heel, etc, trying to build up more, once I buy its not going to be repeated for a long time, there is several things on that 3rd link that are seriously what I want/need. Thanks. Fwiw, my previous inquiries and the responses have helped me to rule out a number of boats that I wouldnt have been happy with.   I understand what you're saying, long before I sign on the dotted line I will sail on it and her close relatives, right now I am more looking for possibilities but mostly ruling out those that wont work, a lot of my time coming up this spring/summer is going to be sailing on the several makes I finally get narrowed down to. I have read a lot of good things on the albergs, and their close relatives, one disadvantage that I have is being far inland from the coasts although some are here on the Great Lakes, but having a blue water boat on the GLs is a bit like having a ferrari running around the town square. I have ruled out several makes just on comments offered here, and several others from things brought up in some of the surveying/inspecting and cruising books I've gotten, its a slow process. I am on several owners lists now, and gradually getting information there, frankly the alberg sounds the best so far although there are a couple interesting pearsons, and one old boat thats a one off I think that keeps drawing me back to her. We shall see what will be. My goal is a good boat for cruising that can get me around the Caribbean and maybe down to the Galapagoes.   Quite a few of the Pearsons are actually Alberg designs...so I'm not particularly surprised that you are looking at a few of them. A blue water boat isn't completely out of place on the Great Lakes, especially if you've seen the weather they can throw at you in November or so. Faster's point about the Alberg full-keel designs being fairly uncooperative when it comes to reverse gear is very much spot on. It is possible, but it takes a fair amount of practice.   Alberg 37s are classic sailing vessels. A little narrow, nice ends and sheer, easy motion at sea, and so forth. As has been said, you must find out if it meets your needs. Probably not an all-out racer. As far as backing under power, even large single screw ships don't back straight. In most cases, turning while backing must be done by briefly hitting the rudder with propwash (a pulse of forward gear.) It takes patience and practice but it can be done.   If I were looking for a classic to rebuild from the keel up the A37 you be high on the list but I (meaning me..) would not take it for extended cruising tho many, many have ..   JakeLevi said: Hey SD good to have you here, if I lose track of which ones I consider I can just check with you. To answer your question, yes, some, others are about half a continent away, it seems logical, even reasonable to ask on an open forum for input on them. I have been researching them as I go along, and develop perceptions on them, I'd rather not just go with that and the brokers statements for my only input. Before I do any surveys I will be first ruling out any that wont work for me, and once I have some reasonable sounding ones I'll go look at them. Seems reasonable to me. As all are a day or mores driving minimum it seems logical to get all the input that I can before making a several days trip. This IS an open forum isnt it ? It IS about buying a boat isnt it ? Anyone who doesnt want to respond has no requirement to. Or did I miss something here ? Anyhow, thanks for your input, it is appreciated. It really is. Click to expand... Does anyone here know the berth lengths on the Alberg 37 Mark 1 or MK I. My wife and I are in the market for one. We are both tall at 5'10" and 6' respectively. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.   The Alberg 37's were built with quite a few different layouts. The layout shown on SailBoatData has approximately a 6'-0" length to the forward berth (as measured from the center of the head of mattress at the bulkhead to the center of the mattress at the foot at the bulkhead. The other issue with that layout is that the forward berth has been pushed very far into the bow if the boat so there is very little width at the foot end of the bunk (less than 2 feet). In other words, due to the short length of the berth and the narrow width, you are more likely to be kicking each other during the night. When I was designing boats, the normal convention is that the berth centerline (measured as above) should be 6'-8" and the width at the foot room should be 15" for each berth (i.e. 2'-6" width at the foot). Carl Alberg tended to draw 'apple cheek' bows (full and rounded bows). While this really hurt motion and performance, it did result in a little more shoulder room in the vee-berth than some of his contemporaries. Jeff   Jeff_H said: The Alberg 37's were built with quite a few different layouts. The layout shown on SailBoatData has approximately a 6'-0" length to the forward berth (as measured from the center of the head of mattress at the bulkhead to the center of the mattress at the foot at the bulkhead. The other issue with that layout is that the forward berth has been pushed very far into the bow if the boat so there is very little width at the foot end of the bunk (less than 2 feet). In other words, due to the short length of the berth and the narrow width, you are more likely to be kicking each other during the night. When I was designing boats, the normal convention is that the berth centerline (measured as above) should be 6'-8" and the width at the foot room should be 15" for each berth (i.e. 2'-6" width at the foot). Carl Alberg tended to draw 'apple cheek' bows (full and rounded bows). While this really hurt motion and performance, it did result in a little more shoulder room in the vee-berth than some of his contemporaries. Jeff Click to expand... You are welcome. I will note again that there are some pretty big variations in the interior layouts on the Alberg 37. For example; -Some had enclosed heads, and on others the head was across the passageway. - Some had a U-shaped galley to port, some had a straight galley on the starboard side, and some had an L-shaped galley on starboard that crossed under the bridge deck and across the companionway. -Some had a hanging locker/bureau in the forward cabin on port and starboard aft of the Vee berth, and some only had one hanging locker/bureau on port and still others had neither of those but a locker in the passage across from the head. In other words, The boat that you are looking at may have a different layout than the one shown on SailboatData. . I will also mention how I came up with that lengt5h of the berth. I dropped the image from Sailboatdata into my drafting program, blew it up to scale, and took a quick measurement. That is should produce a reasonably accurate measurement but not perfect. Jeff   Jeff_H said: You are welcome. I will note again that there are some pretty big variations in the interior layouts on the Alberg 37. For example; -Some had enclosed heads, and on others the head was across the passageway. - Some had a U-shaped galley to port, some had a straight galley on the starboard side, and some had an L-shaped galley on starboard that crossed under the bridge deck and across the companionway. -Some had a hanging locker/bureau in the forward cabin on port and starboard aft of the Vee berth, and some only had one hanging locker/bureau on port and still others had neither of those but a locker in the passage across from the head. In other words, The boat that you are looking at may have a different layout than the one shown on SailboatData. . I will also mention how I came up with that lengt5h of the berth. I dropped the image from Sailboatdata into my drafting program, blew it up to scale, and took a quick measurement. That is should produce a reasonably accurate measurement but not perfect. Jeff Click to expand... I could not live on an Alberg 37. It'd be like living in a toothpaste tube.   ?             176.3K members Top Contributors this Month undefined Detailed Review If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of undefined. Built by undefined and designed by undefined, the boat was first built in undefined. It has a hull type of undefined and LOA is undefined. Its sail area/displacement ratio undefined. Its auxiliary power tank, manufactured by undefined, runs on undefined. undefined has retained its value as a result of superior building, a solid reputation, and a devoted owner base. Read on to find out more about undefined and decide if it is a fit for your boating needs. Boat Information Member boats at harbormoor. 259 IMAGES Alberg 22' Outside Victoria, Victoria SailboatData.com Alberg 22, 1977, New Hampshire, sailboat for sale from Sailing Texas Alberg 22 ‘Eclipse’ For Sale (2021) Alberg 22 Alberg 22 Brochure VIDEO Alberg 22 on Lake Superior to St. Mary’s River Amazing boat fits in a box Free 30' sailboat! Interior rebuild part #3 1968 Alberg 30 Refit Part 2 Interior 2016 2022 Axis A22 Wake Size Review: Wakeboard & Wake Surf COMMENTS ALBERG 22 It takes into consideration "reported" sail area, displacement and length at waterline. The higher the number the faster speed prediction for the boat. A cat with a number 0.6 is likely to sail 6kts in 10kts wind, a cat with a number of 0.7 is likely to sail at 7kts in 10kts wind. KSP = (Lwl*SA÷D)^0.5*0.5 Alberg 22 7868 posts · Joined 2008. #2 · Oct 23, 2010. The Alberg 22 has numbers that a larger offshore boat would be proud to have. Good capsize ratio (1.9 vs 2.42 for the fin keel Catalina 22 for example) and is heavy enough to be more comfortable as well. Not quite as nimble as other lighter boats but steady and comfortable. Review of Alberg 22 Review of Alberg 22. Basic specs. The Alberg 22 aka Douglass 22 is a small sailboat designed by the Swedish maritime architect Carl Alberg in the early seventies. A few hundred boats have been produced. The Alberg 22 is built by the Canadian yard Nye Yachts. Alberg 22 capabilities: How far out would you sail? My sailboat is very similar to the Alberg-22. Here is my experience in 10+ years of sailing a 2nd generation boat by Alberg. 1.) 5.5 knots easily with only main sail and a small jib. 2.) Low freeboard, expect to get wet. 3.) Some will say it is a little tender, but than can also be a good thing. 4.) Classic or Modern? San Juan 24 or Alberg 22 The first option is very classic looking Alberg 22.. ... and will sail rings around the Alberg in any weather. It's commonly claimed by "classic" boat lovers that their floating brickyard is almost as fast, or 99% as fast, or 'keeps up with,' or is faster once the wind gets above XXX, or faster in waves, or something, compared to post-1950s ... 22-foot Sailboat Comparisons Alberg 22 I didn't have a look at any Alberg 22's before buying my Tanzer, but it was one of the boats I was considering. Just the fact that it was designed by Carl Alberg was enough to put it in the running :-). From the specs (48% ballast-to-displacement ratio), it would appear to be a very seaworthy boat. Alberg 22 Alberg 22. The Alberg 22 is a small recreational keelboat, built predominantly of fiberglass, with teak wooden handrails and toe rails, plus other trim. It has a masthead sloop rig, a raked stem, a raised transom, a keel-mounted rudder controlled by a tiller and a fixed long keel.It displaces 3,200 lb (1,451 kg) and carries 1,540 lb (699 kg) of ballast. Alberg 22 capabilities: How far out would you sail? Here is my experience in 10+ years of sailing a 2nd generation boat by Alberg. 1.) 5.5 knots easily with only main sail and a small jib. 2.) Low freeboard, expect to get wet. 3.) Some will say it is a little tender, but than can also be a good thing. 4.) Sailboat will round-up at 27 knots, every time. Alberg 22 capabilities: How far out would you sail? In LI Sound it was normal to see the 18' Typhoons heading out in 20+ knots of wind and having fun. The A22 was built by Allan Nye Scott, who also built the Alberg 29 and 34. The 22 actually has a CSF of 1.902 (anything below 2.0 is what a lot of people consider OK for offshore). Alberg 22 A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize. Formula. 48.17. <40: less stiff, less powerful. Alberg 30 Sailboat Reviews; Sailboats 21-30ft; Alberg 30 One of Carl Alberg's most successful boats, the Alberg 30 enjoyed a production run of a quarter-century. By. ... The original engine in the 30 was the Graymarine 22 hp, followed by the Atomic Four, the 10 hp single cylinder Bukh diesel, the more powerful Volvo Penta MD7A and finally the Volvo 2002. ... 22 Feet 1979 Allen Nye Yachts Alberg 22 Sailboat Learn how the process works (FAQ) Boat Summary. $4,995 (USD) SOLD. Boat ID: 37439. Why take the kids camping when for less than the cost of a camping trailer you can own a 22 foot live-aboard sailboat. The Alberg 22 sleeps 4 comfortably and is equipped with a head (toilet) with extended range tank, sink and cooler for your food and beer. Carl Alberg's Ageless Commander The Pearson Commander, a 26-foot Alberg design, reaches across Narragansett Bay. (photo courtesy of Bob Muggleston) In the early 1960s, building boats designed by Carl Alberg, Philip Rhodes and Bill Tripp, Pearson Yachts was on a roll. The Alberg-designed Triton had been the catalyst; its debut at the 1959 New York Boat Show had been a runaway ... Alberg 22 The Alberg 22 is a 22.0ft masthead sloop designed by Carl Alberg and built in fiberglass by Nye Yachts (CAN) since 1970. 180 units have been built. The Alberg 22 is a heavy sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is very stable / stiff and has a good righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a coastal cruiser. South Coast 22 South Coast 22 is a 22′ 0″ / 6.7 m monohull sailboat designed by Carl Alberg and built by South Coast Seacraft Co. starting in 1968. Great choice! Your favorites are temporarily saved for this session. ... South Coast redesigned the Alberg SOUTH COAST 21 by lengthening it, enlarging the cabin trunk, and replacing the fin keel with a swing ... Alberg 22 Designer: Carl Alberg Cabin: Yes Length: 22' Beam: 7' Draft: 3'1" Weight Empty: 3200 lbs. Ballast: 1540 lbs. Rig: Masthead Sloop Sails: Main: Bermuda 114 sq.ft. Jib: 121 sq.ft. Related boats: Alberg 30 Links: Alberg 22 at Ottawa Small Boat Messabout Great Lakes Alberg Association ... Sea Sprite 0. The Sea Sprite 23 is a trim but rugged daysailer-overnighter from naval architect Carl A. Alberg that enjoyed a 25-year production run under several different Rhode Island builders, most notably Clarke Ryder. It's a typical Alberg design—narrow beam, full keel and conservative ballast-to-displacement ratio and graceful lines. Alberg 22 The Alberg is heavy for its length, at 3200# most 22' boats weigh closer to 2000#. ... Go to a keel boat regatta (Star/J-22/24) and watch how fast keel boats on a trailer can be launched. All you need is a crane/hoist! I advise joining a sailing/yacht club (so equipped) to gain the use of the facility and benefit from hanging out with sailors. ... Cruisers & Sailing Forums Alberg 22. Discussion Tools. 07-09-2012 13:24. sailing_jack. I have 2 Alberg 22's at the moment, one should be gone soon, and the other I got for my daughter, but she wants to move up now. I will refit this boat for sale, Any suggestions on what buyers would like to see done on these? Alberg 37 Pros and Cons? 376 posts · Joined 2006. #9 · Nov 19, 2006 (Edited) Alberg 37s are classic sailing vessels. A little narrow, nice ends and sheer, easy motion at sea, and so forth. As has been said, you must find out if it meets your needs. undefined: Reviews, Specifications, Built, Engine If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of undefined. Built by undefined and designed by undefined, the boat was first built in undefined. It has a hull type of undefined and LOA is undefined. 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